Hello Mugur,

Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:21:40 PM, you wrote:

MR> Go to issue configuration page where you can set the publication date.

Here attached is a screenshot from the only area I found where I can
set a publication date for issues. If there is another, please tell me
so.

So, while I can delete the date (see arrow where I deleted the 9 of
2009), I cannot enter anything there. Whether I use Firefox or IE,
whether I use the numbers on top or to the right of the keyboard, I
cannot make any input. I can put the cursor there, but then I can only
backspace, nothing else.

I can use PHPMyadmin and have found dates in various lists searching
for them. Will anything untoward happen to the database integrity if I
manually adjust dates in the database itself? As I plan monthly
editions/issues it should be no problem setting them all to consistent
dates for the past issues, I'd just work with a day date and midnight.

Still, I am used to being able to adjust such dates within the
software itself, so I wonder what's the problem here.

MR> The event emails should contain a short description of the event so no, it's
MR> not normal to receive a blank message. I'll ask Holman, my colleague to help
MR> you with this.

Maybe I need to clarify that so far I haven't configured email in any
which way, I just fed in my email address (during installation I
believe).


Cheers,

Pippa

Hello Sava,

Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:45:11 PM, you wrote:

stmo> It's a minor bug with that input field. But here is the workaround. Delete
stmo> the whole date, then enter the date you want. Works on two of my sites.
stmo> Please let me know if it works for you.

Yes, it did! Great!

Thanks for the tip!

Cheers,

Pippa

Ah the Steve Jobs effect In Linux, you just use the middle mouse button
to highlight then insert again

Just kidding. Good tip. And we'll fix this input field.

In fact, would you like to report the bug in Trac
(http://trac.campware.org/campsite/)? (I'll do it later today, but if you
beat me to it, all the better).

Sava



From: Generare Management Department

To: campsite-support@campware.org

Date: 07/30/2009 06:22 PM

Subject: Re: Re[4]: [campsite-support] backdating - email content of system emails






I often copy the date elsewhere (for example in the Google field in
the browser) that I keep the date format, edit the date and then paste
it back.

Sanna

On 30.7.2009, at 18.51, pippa wrote:

> Hello Sava,
>
> Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:45:11 PM, you wrote:
>
> stmo> It's a minor bug with that input field. But here is the
> workaround. Delete
> stmo> the whole date, then enter the date you want. Works on two of
> my sites.
> stmo> Please let me know if it works for you.
>
> Yes, it did! Great!
>
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pippa
>

Hi,

May you send us one of those e-mails you get from the system and tell
us what action you were trying to execute (in case e-mail doesn't say
anything about it) ? Thanks,

Best,



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:23 AM, pippa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> to set up the site I need to backdate prior issues including articles.
> As there will be some 6-8 prior issues I need to do that in the least
> troublesome way.
>
> I tried backdating with the existing issues and articles which were
> imported, but it is impossible to change the publication dates. Then I
> set up a new publication and tried to backdate this, also impossible,
> it defaults to the current date.
>
> Short of going into PHPMyadmin and adjusting dates manually, is there
> an easy way to do this?
>
> Also, my actions trigger system email responses. However, the whole
> email consists of just the header, no email body. Is that normal?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pippa
>
>
>



--
/holman

Thank you. that was the correct place.



From: Generare Management Department

To: campsite-support@campware.org

Date: 07/30/2009 07:39 PM

Subject: Re: Re[4]: [campsite-support] backdating - email content of system emails






Done,
I hope in the correct place:
http://trac.campware.org/campsite/ticket/2954

I think this doesn't need very lond explanation in order to remember
or know what is the bug.

/Sanna

On 30.7.2009, at 20.01, sava.tatic@mdlf.org wrote:

> Ah the Steve Jobs effect In Linux, you just use the middle mouse
> button
> to highlight then insert again
>
> Just kidding. Good tip. And we'll fix this input field.
>
> In fact, would you like to report the bug in Trac
> (http://trac.campware.org/campsite/)? (I'll do it later today, but
> if you
> beat me to it, all the better).
>
> Sava
>
>
>
> From: Generare Management Department
>
> To: campsite-support@campware.org
>
> Date: 07/30/2009 06:22 PM
>
> Subject: Re: Re[4]: [campsite-support] backdating - email
> content of system emails
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I often copy the date elsewhere (for example in the Google field in
> the browser) that I keep the date format, edit the date and then paste
> it back.
>
> Sanna
>
> On 30.7.2009, at 18.51, pippa wrote:
>
>> Hello Sava,
>>
>> Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:45:11 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> stmo> It's a minor bug with that input field. But here is the
>> workaround. Delete
>> stmo> the whole date, then enter the date you want. Works on two of
>> my sites.
>> stmo> Please let me know if it works for you.
>>
>> Yes, it did! Great!
>>
>> Thanks for the tip!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Pippa
>>

hm, could it be your e-mail client (which one is it?)? I believe Campsite
sends text-only notifications, so it can't be some html nonsense, but maybe
I am mistaken.



From: pippa

To: Holman Romero

Date: 07/30/2009 08:32 PM

Subject: Re[2]: [campsite-support] backdating - email content of system emails






Hello Holman,

Thursday, July 30, 2009, 4:52:31 PM, you wrote:

HR> May you send us one of those e-mails you get from the system and tell
HR> us what action you were trying to execute (in case e-mail doesn't say
HR> anything about it) ? Thanks,

Very curious...

When I get that email under the original recipient email it
effectively shows only the header with the subject being what it deals
with "Change article status". There is no message body in evidence.
Now that I tried to forward that email, this is what gets pasted into
the forward:

.......................................................................

This is a forwarded message
From: pippaschatz@yahoo.de
To: pippaschatz@yahoo.de
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 6:30:04 PM
Subject: Change article status

===8<==============Original message text===============


Performed by: Administrator (admin) - email: pippaschatz@yahoo.de\n
Article #154 "Millions disconnected by NTT broadband outage
(Duplicate)" status changed from Published to Published. (Publication
1, Issue 1, Section 80) on 2009-07-30 12:29:35

===8<===========End of original message text===========

.......................................................................

Cheers,

Pippa

pippa wrote on 07/30/2009 07:07:54 PM:

> From:

> Hello,
>
> I have a few comprehension questions here.
>
> I can assign an article only to one section.
>
> However, I also - and at the SAME time - can assign that article to
> several topics.
>
> E.g. I have an article which deals with tulips, tulips which happen to
> be grown in the Netherlands. It goes into section "flowers". The
> topics I attach are "tulips" and "Netherlands"

correct

>
> Then I have an article which is the review of a restaurant in
> Amsterdam. This goes into section "restaurant reviews". The topics I
> attach are "holidays" and "Netherlands".
>
> Is it now possible to create a menu which will call pages containing
> all articles attached to a specific topic, e.g. "Netherlands"?

yes (for an extensive example of this in action, see www.tol.org)

> How exactly is the navigation template and how would be the template
> for that page (e.g. similar to a section page).

I hope someone else will step in here with a concrete example of code.
(you'd never want to rely on my code for anything, believe me)

> Next...
>
> If I create topics which actually are subthemes of a section, how do I
> create the necessary navigation?
>
> E.g. I have the section "Flowers". Now I have the topics "tulips",
> "roses" and "lilies".
>
> I'd like a navigation like this:
>
> sections: travel | x flowers | restaurant reviews | columns
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> topics: tulpis | roses | lilies
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "x" represents a highlighted navigation link. This link should call
> the section template, but at the same time I'd like a row of the
> topics relevant to that section displayed underneath that row which
> will, when clicked display only articles of that topic.

Again, I call on someone else to answer this.

Hello Mugur,

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the problem.... *sigh*

I - am - no - coder.

Or in other words: I don't understand anything which is written there!
Not even a little bit. So, while the relevant manual info might make
sense to you, it does not to me. I need stuff spelled out.

So, if I have three topics (roses, lilies, tulips) and I have a
section (flowers), how do I cause these three topics to be shown as
menu links under the section-rank navigation when someone clicks on
the section link "flowers" with the main section page loading in the
content area?

And then, what exactly is needs to be done so that each of these three
topic links calls the attached (to each selectively) content in the
content area?

Spelled out, ready to be pasted into a template.

You see, Gabi has a point there. Like her I am just an admin and
webmaster, I don't develop software and I don't have the slightest
idea how to do that. If this were Joomla or Typolight, I'd simply
create a nested menu and pointed each menu link to the correct ID. If
this was Wordpress, I'd use e.g. a category or a sub-category tag
within the template and I'd have a nested navigation as well. But this
kind of stuff is entirely beyond me.

Reading it sounds as if it calls articles which have a topic attached
into the content field. It does NOT sound like a menu item called by
another menu item.

What I need is this:

http://www.taz.de/1/debatte/kolumnen/artikel/1/geliebte-margarine/

Now click on "Zukunft" or "Leben" and watch what happens. This is
precisely what I want. I've read and re-read everything I found about
topics, navigation and sections in the manual, and I am not one single
step closer to a solution! So, I can here and now state, giving me
those links doesn't help me. I need the correct code and I need
instructions on how to place it where.

Alternatively and for the future, I suggest you develop some sort of
navigation creation module, where people can built a nested navigation
using sections, topics and subtopics simply by defining the navigation
logic per se. Which still doesn't help me now.

Cheers,

Pippa





MR> Use set_topic and list_subtopics to create menus of root topics/subtopics:

MR> http://code.campware.org/manuals/campsite/3.3/index.php?id=71
MR> http://code.campware.org/manuals/campsite/3.3/index.php?id=139

MR> Set the template topic in order to get a list of articles having the given
MR> topic. E.g.:

MR> {{ set_topic name=".." }}
MR> {{ list_articles }}

MR> This will list only the articles having the set topic. See:
MR> http://code.campware.org/manuals/campsite/3.3/index.php?id=75

MR> Quote from the manual:
MR> "*Note on topics*: If a certain topic was defined in the template
MR> environment by use of
MR> "set_topic"
MR> statement or URL
MR> parameterthe
MR> list will change the behavior of articles list: only articles having
MR> that topic will be listed."

Hello Sava,

Thursday, July 30, 2009, 10:26:02 PM, you wrote:

stmo> yes (for an extensive example of this in action, see www.tol.org)

Yes, I have seen this already. Still I have no idea how it's done or
how what I want to do can be done

Cheers,

Pippa

Hello Slobodan,

I think this may not be exactly what I am thinking about, possibly I
just don't understand what you write .

It all would be no problem if there was a tag with which I could
directly call any articles linked to a specific topic and if it were
possible to link topics to a specific section.

First off, please look at the horizontal menu of the TAZ newspaper:

http://www.taz.de/1/debatte/kolumnen/artikel/1/geliebte-margarine/

and there especially at what happens when you click on a link in the
upper row.

So, let's see what we have...

We have sections, let us say these sections:

1. holidays
2. flowers
3. names

This is easy to set up as sections. But it gives us only 1 depth of
linking. The menu links will bring up all articles written under each
section within an issue.

Now, what we need within a section are different sub-sections or if
you will topics of a section.

1. holidays (section)
1.1. -- restaurant reviews (topic within this section)
1.2. -- hotels (topic within this section)
1.3. -- skiing (topic within this section)

2. flowers (section)
2.1. -- tulips (topic within this section)
2.2. -- lilies (topic within this section)
2.3. -- roses (topic within this section)

3. animals (section)
3.1. -- cats (topic within this section)
3.2. -- dogs (topic within this section)
3.3. -- birds (topic within this section)

That's a navigation two links/tiers deep, and it's what I need to
structure the content properly.

As far as I understand things so far, there is however no connection
between a section and topics inside it. Or in other words, there is no
direct way to associate topics not just with articles, but also with
sections, right?

And there is also no way to make child-sections/sub-sections under a
section, right?

Both of the above would make things easier, I suspect. Are there any
plans to do this eventually?

I could do a two-tier ordering with topics, like e.g.

1. flowers (topic)
1.1. -- tulips (sub-topic)
1.2. -- lilies (sub-topic)
1.3. -- roses (sub-topic)

But topics are NOT sections and articles then will not be called by
section and all the section related sorting and templating won't work.

The problem, at least according to my understanding is that there is
no dynamic link between a section and any topics under it,
respectively, that there is no way to order the section into
subsections.

As to your coding, Slobodan, I'm sorry, I am no coder, this has been
going totally past me so far (huge sorry!) - what I mean to say, I
can't do anything with this, I don't understand any of this. E.g. if
there is a precise tag which I should paste somewhere, or some precise
bit of code I need to fit into a template, okay. But you are already
way above my head.

Cheers,

Pippa